The potential readding of the 41st Elite Corps

Should 41st/Green Company be added back?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 82.1%
  • No

    Votes: 5 17.9%

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In-game name: Marshal Commander Pickens/212th G T2LT Dionysus/ Fleet Officer Shanks

Type of suggestion(addon, bug, model, script): addon/model

Reason for the suggestion: it's no joke that the server' player count has dropped a significant amount in the last few weeks, going from averaging around 45-50 a day, to now barely reaching 30. we believe that this is due to the lack of uniqueness between regiments on the server, from this we would like to propose the suggestion of Removing GM and Shadow Company in favour for a regiment like the 41st elite corps or the 91st battalion.

Why would this be needed?

Point #1

Currently, we have 3 Frontline regiments, 501st, 212th, and GM, and sadly to say it, there is no differentiation between 501st and GM other than the fact that one has snipers, which leads me to my next point. galactic Marine snipers were added to avoid the regiment from being removed, which quite frankly has corrupted the idea and image of the regiment from what It once was when it was originally added. Due to this, believe that GM should be removed from the server alongside Shadow company(which we will get to in a second) like many if not all of their jobs can be given to other regiments quite easily: breaching and ship boarding can be given to the 501st, shotguns would remain with CG and the 104th wolfpack.

Point #2
This brings me to my second point: GM was given the "sniper" job as a last resort to avoid the regiment getting removed, we as well as many others feel that this was the wrong decision to make as it is essentially making GM into 41st, the skins that were given to the sniper role was the green camo (as well as the desert camo), a Valken, binoculars and a BARC speeder, this is literally the exact loadout that the members of 41st had but was just given to a frontline regiment, If the server staff/ development team are happy to make Part of GM into 41st, then why keep the regiment to avoid it getting removed, instead we believe that the server staff/development team should have stuck with their guns and removed the regiment in favour for 41st back instead of not only having the regiments roles conflict with other regiments such as 501st but also take away popularity from other regiment roles such as RC Foxtrot and shadow stalker.

Point #3: Shadow
It is no secret that shadow company's numbers have dropped substantially in the last few months, as well as the reputation of the regiment going back to shit as it once was a long time ago and now is mostly known as a "minge" regiment, The same thing was done to shadow that was done to GM in the sense that instead of removing the regiment to account for the number of players on the server, the previous super staff team had decided that it was a good idea to instead make the regiment larger by making "stalker", a small sniper squad of 3 or 4 people, into a whole sub-regiment such as AB and Ghost, This did not help the regiments numbers and has instead made it harder for them to keep up a good number of troopers, having to fill up two sub-regiments.

This is not the only reason that we feel shadow should be removed as there are many other factors that shadow should be doing/do that can easily be given to other regiments: Cloaking and stealth to gain intel are hardly/ if ever used in events anymore leaving shadow to just punch droids and get in the way of troopers on the frontlines, this once again plays into the fact that almost every regiment serves the same purpose on the server as of this moment, once upon a time shadow was used to sneak behind enemy lines and take out targets/ extract intel before anyone else was able to get there, for them to be on the frontline now( be it in cloak) alongside every other regiment not only makes it boring for the troopers in shadow but the players overall as they join a regiment based on its "uniqueness" and what it does, just to have every regiment to essentially the exact same thing in almost every event.

Interrogation/ torture: interrogation can be given to the CG or potentially Jedi(through a matter of RP) as it can give CG something more to do will give them something to do, torture as a motive isn't really needed, we barely ever have any events where shadow would need to torture people anymore, and if torture was really needed then we could potentially hand it over to RC.
Assassination can once again be handed over to either RC or another sniping regiment by the name of the 41st Elite corps.

we feel that Removing SC and GM are a good choice, replacing them with 41st might be a good idea for having a dedicated recon/sniper regiment instead of a breaching regiment having snipers and a weird and convoluted stealth/interrogation/sniper regiment.

Final Point
As for what would be done with the current members of both regiments, they would either have to start again or would be allowed to transfer out depending on their performance as allowing rank for rank transfers from Green Company to GM in the first place was absolutely stupid as they are two completely different regiments.

Where would we find the models for these 41st?: we believe that these were the previously used models on the server before 41st was removed https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1801797040&searchtext=41st+CGI

some may realise that we won't have enough regiments for each marshal commander/Battalion general if this goes through, due to this I would then propose that we reintroduce sections, then we could have section generals and assistant section generals which would decrease the need for individual regiments being assigned to 1 person
Pros:
  • Many players who have left the server have said that they would only return if 41st was added(yes we know this was said with GM)
  • Removing Both Shadow and GM in exchange for the 41st elite corps would adjust the number of regiments we have to account for the player base
  • it would have no effect on ARC, removing GM ARC in exchange for 41st ARC
  • As stated above, it would be better to have a dedicated sniper/recon regiment instead of a frontline breaching regiment who want to be 41st
  • Pickens - I know for a fact that the GM commander has stated on multiple occasions that he would happily have GM replaced with 41st
  • 41st' popularity is very high within the community
  • it would give Luminara Unduli and Barris Offee something to do as without a regiment they are kind of useless( similar to Anakin and Ahsoka)
Cons:
  • would mostly have an effect on those in GM and SC as they would be leaving their regiments
  • Kind of removing a more unique regiment in the likes of shadow
  • would take a while to build back put o what it used to be
  • may upset some longer-lasting members of shadow and GM
  • members of shadow and GM could potentially be unhappy about having to start over if they want to stay in 41st
  • may draw numbers away from other regiments

If 41st was to be readded and it was to go wrong, I would happily dedicate my time to picking up the pieces- Pickens

p.s. Drew told us to make this forum post as he likes the idea
 
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TBH I miss 41st so this may be bias but removing 2 mostly inactive regiments and combining them into one seems like a great idea to try to fix this but it would still be a risk. Either way I hope that this goes through. (Good Luck explaining how they all survived the death laser though)
 
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@Pickens Very well made suggestion. Here are my thoughts (from someone not playing daily on the server)

I have always thought SC had cool models, but they have always been a topic of discussion. Because like you say they mostly cloak and punch shit. So there you got a fair point.

I would also like to state I think something needs to be done because we cannot have this many "breaching regs" when we can have a recon regiment instead. But some might say but we have too many regs for the playerbase, well if Pickens claims are true then 41st can be filled up. If not I think a removal of SC and GM would be good to make 41st a good fit.

Some packs that I found nice:

LN still best though

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2237075302&searchtext=91st
 
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@Pickens Very well made suggestion. Here are my thoughts (from someone not playing daily on the server)

I have always thought SC had cool models, but they have always been a topic of discussion. Because like you say they mostly cloak and punch shit. So there you got a fair point.

I would also like to state I think something needs to be done because we cannot have this many "breaching regs" when we can have a recon regiment instead. But some might say but we have too many regs for the playerbase, well if Pickens claims are true then 41st can be filled up. If not I think a removal of SC and GM would be good to make 41st a good fit.

Some packs that I found nice:

LN still best though

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2237075302&searchtext=91st
and like I've said, if it fails then I will take all the blame and try to pick up the pieces by myself
 
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id like to say most of my reg doesnt have fists now, also look how they said the same about adding GM back, it just didnt work
Yeah, a majority of active SC doesn't have fists, so what makes them different from an eventual 41st? SC has unique jobs in cloak, assasination and torture etc but when is that ever really used? Most of active SC are stalker, which is 41st but in black armour and has cloak.

Most of the arguments for getting GM back was the nostalgia and it used to be good which, aren't good arguments. Once the excitement around GM died down so did the regiment. It doesn't have a role to fill on the battlefield apart from ship boarding and spacewalks which can be given to someone else.


but why would you remove a reg to add yet another frontline regiment do we not have enough already
Remove two regs, one frontline one theoretically specialist for another specialist regiment.
 
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